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Miss England asked to gain weight before the Miss Universe pageant.... veddy interesting.

Miss_englandNews reports abound today about Miss England being told she should gain some weight before the big contest... which surprised her since she's not, apparently, "rail thin."

Organizers are trying to set a standard for contestants so that the pageant doesn't end up promoting the look that led to the whole skinny model debate.

Nice.

But said organizers apparently refused to comment to the Associated Press on their stance.

Weird.

Overall, I think this is probably a good thing..but I don't really like to commentary that immediately surfaced, ie  "what if she gains weight in all the wrong places?".  I mean, curves are curves, no?  Um no.  Apparently, there are good curves and bad curves.... some curves we're not supposed to want.  Like in the stomach and thighs:

"I'm trying to work out at the same time," she said. "It'll hopefully maybe level things out a bit. But, I mean, if I do start putting weight on, say, my stomach or somewhere on my thighs where I don't really want to put it on ... I'll obviously scrap the idea and I'll just accept the fact that I'm a naturally athletic build and can't do the curves."

WTF?  So it's okay to gain weight in the boobs, or to have sexy hips... but god forbid she should develop a round tummy or flabby thighs.  That would be downright unsexy... and what kind of universe would this be if Miss Universe was curvy in all the wrong places?


October 26, 2007 in The skinny model debate, Think About This | Permalink | Comments (2)

Modeling today

FordFrom Freakonomics: Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Ford Models

(via my good friend, Ran, who probably never realized he was going to be so dialed into these strains of pop culture when we took our Freshman Seminar together at College)

I'll leave the commentary to you all on this one!

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Last week, we solicited your questions for John Caplan , the president of Ford Models. Amidst all the Fashion Week furor, he took the time to answer. 

Q: Have models truly gotten smaller over the past, let's say, 30 years? Is it a result of demands from designers, editors, and/or advertisers, or did it start with the kinds of models that scouts have been signing?

A: I really believe that designers, editors, and the entertainment industry drive the body image ideal. We develop and manage models that are healthy, and should our models develop any health problems, we work with the models to solve them. If we sign models that clients don't want, then they don't work; so our incentive is to find talent that meets the criteria of our clients.

Q: Recently, we've seen the practice of importing models from places in Latin America and Eastern Europe. Many are very young, come from impoverished countries and face reported threats of exploitation. Does your agency employ the practice of importing such models? If so, what safeguards do you have in place to protect their rights as workers?

A: The reality is that living conditions in some third world countries are awful. We try to recruit great models and give them the opportunity to develop careers. Later, when they become successful, many of them work to improve the living conditions for their families back home. As for protecting their rights, we are very vigilant about ensuring that our models are paid by and work for reputable clients.

Q: Why do Ford and other agencies put commercial interests above the health of teenage models? Why encourage a fifteen year-old girl to diet down to a size zero when, as an adult, you know that such behavior is unhealthy, even dangerous? Do you think that adults should take some responsibility for the choices made by kids, and that it is irresponsible to encourage teenage models to over-diet?

A: Parents, teachers, agents, and clients all share responsibility for the health and well-being of models, particularly those that are underage. Ford doesn't ever encourage models to "diet down to size zero." That's just not how Ford works.

Q: As a freelance Web designer/developer, I'm curious what role personal Web sites play in the careers of upcoming models and actors. Would you say such sites are necessary for aspiring models? Do they make things easier for industry professionals such yourself? How would you advise models asking you about the value of a personal site?

A: The Internet has become an important marketing tool for the talent we represent. We have a big group on staff dedicated to developing these tools. Web video casting and personal profile pages help clients across the globe get comfortable with talent, and allows them cast virtually. Our TV destination and distribution relationships with YouTube, MySpace, iVillage, and Verizon, among others, help to market our talent. In fact, a number of advertisers have seen our videos and then sought content and talent sponsorship agreements.

Q: There is a branch in psychology that studies the appreciation of beauty. Researchers have developed quantitative measures, such as length of nose relative to width of chin. My question is twofold: a) Does your agency systematically follow that research? b) Do you use such measurements to estimate an applicants potential in the market, or do you rely on your feelings and experience?

A: We rely on the experience of our scouts, talent managers and clients to develop the new faces we represent. In my opinion, beauty that is defined exclusively by metrics is like a painting that is created to appeal to the broadest market: dull.

Q: How would you rank criteria such as facial features, body shape, poise and hair when choosing a model, regardless of designer?

A: Designers and their casting agents make selections for talent based upon overall look, attitude, movement and personality. They are seeking talent that helps to bring to life the vision and creativity of their collections.

Q: Has the recent surge in reality shows about modeling and the fashion industry (i.e. America's Next Top Model, Project Runway, etc.) affected the quality or quantity of your models or applicants?

A: The shows are purely entertainment and produced with that in mind. They haven't had any impact on the quality of the talent we represent, nor have the shows developed or discovered stars. We do see thousands of people applying every day to us via our Web site. An aspiring model knows that, if he or she is signed to Ford, he or she is more likely to work in the industry.

Q: Do you think the rise in popularity of "candid," "real-life" fashion Web sites such as The Sartorialist and Facehunter will affect what constitutes a model in terms of appearance?

A: I think they are terrific Web sites and that they offer really interesting ways to observe the means in which individual style is created every day. They have no impact on talent selection, though.

Q: I'm a 24-year-old model based in Toronto right now. Most models' careers seem to peak at a much younger age. Have I missed the boat, or there still a chance to have a successful modeling career? Secondly, do you think there will be a "return of the supermodel," or will most models always remain anonymous, nameless faces?

A: Generally models begin their careers when they are 16 to 20 years old. You can always apply at our Web site, and one of our scouts will review your materials.

As for your second question, I do believe that society is getting tired of the unpredictable behavior of celebrities, and therefore supermodels will return.

Q: How did you become involved in the modeling industry, and what are you suggestions for getting started as a booker, agent, etc., in the industry at a young age?

A: I joined Ford after working on the team that built About.com. I was ultimately president of the About Network (which is now owned by The New York Times Company). To get a job and start at Ford, we have a terrific intern program in each of our offices, and bookers frequently get their start assisting in one of the divisions.

Q: What percent of non-models in the industry (management, etc.) used to be models themselves? What do models usually do when they retire?

A: Very few models become agents. Many move on to entertainment and acting, while others go on to production, design, and photography.

Q: In your opinion, how did Ford rise to the top of the market (and stay there for decades) despite the heavy competition and fast-paced industry trends?

A: Culturally, we're focused on innovation, client and talent service, and teamwork. In addition, the breadth and depth of the talent we represent, our global geography, the introduction of integrated service offerings, our proprietary technology, our branding, and our reputation have all contributed to our consistent results over the past six decades. Most importantly, we represent the right talent, and employ the best managers in the industry.

Q: Would you encourage your own daughter (or son) to become a model?

A: Yes, if she wants to.  She's only two right now, so she's got some time to grow before she's ready.

Q: Can a moderately fit, six-foot-tall economist with slightly above-average looks and slightly above-average body hair make it as a model? Just curious.

A: Anything is possible.

September 28, 2007 in The skinny model debate, Think About This | Permalink | Comments (6)

America's Next Top Model: a feel-good, feminist, self-esteem raising jamboree?

AntmAnyone else watch the premiere of cycle 9 last night?

Anyone else have some of cycle one on tape/dvd/tivo?  If you do, go back and watch the opening credits.  Tyra was all "I wanna make someone a star!" and now, after all the criticism about her being fat, her talk show being about 'real' women etc... her voice over in the credits is now all "I just want to make girls feel good about themselves."

So, the cultural discourse and rhetoric (grad school words!) has evolved.  But is it authentic?  Is ANTM *really* all about wanting to help girls and women feel good about themselves? Is that why video of the semi-finalists, when getting THE call from Tyra, were all like "I L.O.V.E YOU, TYRA!"  Cause they know how great this experience is going to be for their inner beauty?

Yeaaaaahhhh, and the Miss America "Program" (don't you dare call it a 'pageant'!) is all about the scholarship cash and creating world peace. Uh, hunh.  I know.

And um, CYCLE 9???!!!!  So where the heck are the 8 previous winners?  (besides showing up on current ANTM episodes--as they did in cycle 8--to help current contestants).

Oh and BTW.  THIS is just about the funniest thing I've ever seen.  Go Tyra!

September 20, 2007 in The skinny model debate, Think About This | Permalink | Comments (2)

French government forming international body to investigate skinny model phenom

Skinny_narrowweb__300x4540Bravo, mes amis!  Et en fin!

News reports out today say that the French fashion federation is now agreeing that the skinny model prob needs to investigated. BUT, Didier Grumbach, the "chief" of the federation is still maintaining that more regulation IS NOT in order... it's "the education of young women."

Yeah... um well... I see where he's coming from.  And I'm not the type of person who generally wants to start regulating everything either, but the problem with putting the onus on young women to get educated is that it puts the onus on young women to get educated--and we (as a global culture) don't really spend a lot of time, effort, or money on helping girls decode the images they see.  In other words, I agree that we need to give girls the tools to make sense of media images etc, but I also think that designers, photographers, PEOPLE IN GENERAL should do their part in wanting to create healthy images.   So it's not like they get to put out whatever they want, and then educators (like me?) and girls need to scramble to understand and save themselves.

My other fave part of the news report:

"France's health minister has said he wants a working group to assess the impact that images of skinny models have on young women."

Hmmm.... gee. How are they going to do that? I mean, as we've all been talking about on this Skinny Model thread it's not a simple direct correlation ie Skinny Models On Paris Runway= Specific Number of New Cases of Anorexia Per Year. In my opinion, the images and messages created by parading these models down a runway and paying them big fat salaries (way bigger than say a high school teacher or a computer technician...jobs that require actual skills and talents) contribute to a larger message about which qualities in women are valuable and worth compensating. And THAT'S where the problem lies.   

So how do you quantify how much a photo of a skinny model on the runway actually influences a girl? Again in my opinion, you'd need to talk to every girl out there, to decode how she feels about herself when looking at media images, find out how much she understands about how those images get created, THEN determine if she has positive role models, influences and activities in her life that help offset all the messages she's getting regarding the importance of thinness, fame, beauty etc....

Wait a minute.  That sounds a lot like my job.  Alors les francais, if you're looking for an American expert on this topic then call me up! Je suis disponible et je parle francais!

January 25, 2007 in The skinny model debate | Permalink | Comments (2)

"Vanity Sizing" (ie a 6 is not a 6 is not a 6)

Jump1_1 Back when Miss Leslie Bibb was just a teen on a show called Popular, I was an editor at a very cool magazine called Jump ("For girls who dare to be real").  It was published by the same company that prints Shape, and competed with Seventeen, YM, Teen People etc for readers.  Only it was way better. (Sadly, it folded in 2000.. .but that's another story)

Anyway, one of the articles I wrote for Jump was titled "Size Doesn't Matter" and it was all about how a a girl might be a size 4 in one brand of clothing, yet a 6 or an 8 in another.  That's because some companies purposefully change the names of their sizes because they think it will appeal to consumers.  (IE, a 30 inch waist may have once been the basis for a size medium.  But heck, let's start calling everything with a 30 inch waste a size SMALL!  Then more people will want to buy our clothes because when they wear them, they'll feel thin.  And thin is good!)  Get it?

I've posted a scan of the article here in case you feel like giving it the once over....
But what I really want to do is relate all this to Spain's announcement that it's going to try to standardize women's sizing....Jump2

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Because according to news reports out today, Spain's government has reached an agreement with major fashion designers to "standardize women's clothing sizes with the aim of promoting a healthier image."

Ay Mami that's good news!  Especially since the designers on board are Mango (cheap and trendy... a la H&M), El Corte Ingles (THE department store of Spain) and ZARA  (um.... famous everywhere!)

Another cool componant of the program? It will also prevent participating companies from using window displays featuring clothes smaller than a European size 38 (10 in Britain, 8 in the United States). Dude, I can dig it.

And check out this sane quote: 

"It is not reasonable for a modern and advanced society to establish stereotypes of beauty that are far removed from the social reality of a community. It is everyone's commitment that beauty and health go hand in hand," Health Minister Elena Salgado said at a signing ceremony Tuesday.

Hola Elena..., we should hang out some time.

And one more cool bit:

The Health Ministry's program aims to end a situation in which a woman who buys a size 40 dress from one designer may not fit in a size 40 garment from another designer. The ministry said the differences sometimes lead women to feel compelled to lose weight.

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Very, very interesting.  Not sure how all this will play out.... or if this is the best course of action....but I'm happy to see someone doing something at a high level on this important issue. 

What do YOU think?

January 24, 2007 in But on the Bright Side, The skinny model debate, Think About This | Permalink | Comments (2)

Gisele speaks out on the skinny model debate...

Gisele...and it turns out she should have kept quiet on the subject.

According to a report from Reuters,  Gisele, 26, apparently thinks that weak families are to blame for anorexia -- not the fashion industry that has been widely criticized for promoting waifish silhouettes.

"I never suffered from this problem (anorexia) because I had a very strong family base. Parents are responsible, not the fashion industry," she said in the Friday edition of O Globo newspaper.

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Hmmm.  In my opinion the blame can't all be lumped in one place.  Eating Disorder specialists believe that diseases like anorexia are caused by several factors, among them family influences, genetic predisposition, personality type, and--Sorry G-Bund--cultural influences.

What irks me about her perspective is that she doesn't seem to be able to put herself in someone else's place.  Just because SHE wasn't influenced by media images or comments from boys or some other cultural influence doesn't mean that another girl might be as lucky. 

And just because her family  might be strong and supportive and amazing when it comes to reaffirming how their daughters felt about their bodies growing up doesn't mean that every girl gets that support.

If I had been the reporter interviewing her, I would have pressed her with questions like:

  • "So what role DO you think the fashion industry might play in all the turmoil that some girls and women experience regarding their bodies?"
  • "How do you feel about the desire your images are used to create in both men and women?  What about the effect of that on girls?"
  •   "Where do you stand on the fact that fashion (as she notes in the Reuters article) is closely connected to thinness?  Especially when the majority of women on the planet don't have that body type, so the clothes you model and image you try to sell isn't achievable for the very people who are your customers?"

I'd like to hear her, and others in the industry, tackle issues like that--instead of just saying 'well, I never had those problems, so they can't be real.'

January 19, 2007 in Startling Stats and Quotes, The skinny model debate | Permalink | Comments (2)

Angelina is waaay too skinny

Angjoliefm080107_468x774 Yeah, her humanitarian work deserves to be applauded.  But it would be nice if she took some time to think about her part as a visual role model as. 

Cause this girl needs a milkshake something fierce to get rid of all those veins (click on the photo to enlarge it!)

January 15, 2007 in Startling Stats and Quotes, The skinny model debate | Permalink | Comments (2)

Americans to set health guidelines for skinny models

The New York Times reported on Saturday ("Health Guidelines Suggested for Models," Eric Wilson) 1/6/07)  that the Council of Fashion Designers of America  has decided to issue guidelines aimed at promoting healthier behavior among models.

YAY!

HOWEVER.... the "guidelines" sound like they're going to be pretty weak... so I'm not sure how many changes we're going to see.

The recommendations are likely to include:

  • Scheduling fashion show fittings with younger models during daylight hours, rather than late at night to help them get more sleep
  • Urging designers to identify models with eating disorders
  • Introducing more nutritious backstage catering

Yo damn!  Those sound harsh!  You mean there's actually going to be FOOD backstage?!

And OY VEY the comments that some fashionistas gave the New York Times for the article:

"The Chamber of Fashion, based in Milan, is asking that models hold a license issues by a committee of city officials and a panel of doctors, nutritionists, psychologists and other experts."


"Can you think of another job you would have to talk to a nutritionist, a psychology expert and a doctor to get certified," asked Roberta Meyers, editor of Elle.  "Maybe the CIA?"

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Aw hell, Roberta, I agree with you that it sounds totally cuckoo. I mean, that sounds like a lot of resources wasted on making sure that women who sell image and product for a living are fit for their jobs.  It's absurd actually, given that there are starving kids in Africa.  So here's a suggestion: why don't the fashion and beauty and design industries actually take note of the fact that the role models they put out there contribute in some way to beauty ideals and the goals/aspirations of young girls... and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT on their own?!

In fact, I charge YOU, Roberta, with getting things off the ground... especially since the same New York Times article cited that more than 2/3 of respondents to a questionnaire on Elle magazine's website said they wish American designers would follow the recent examples of fashion show organizers in Milan and Madrid in banning overly skinny models.

Listen to your peeps!

January 08, 2007 in The skinny model debate | Permalink | Comments (1)

Photoshop also used to make models appear healthier....

PhotoshopWomen's Wear Daily ran a piece yesterday stating that some models are so skinny and unhealthy looking, that magazines are using photoshop to beef them up a bit before printing their images.

From the article:

"Several editors have been quietly ordering the retouching of gaunt model shots to make them look, well, a little fatter. "A model shows up and you realize she's too thin and has lost weight since the booking, but the show must go on," said Allure editor in chief Linda Wells. "When the film comes to me, I realize I don't want to see hip bones and ribs in the magazine."

Of course, "healthy" and "fat" are the important words here...because those definitions aren't fixed.... as evidenced by a quote from Lucky editor in chief, Kim France:

"It's never something where you made the girl look heavy," said France . "It's just a quiet, small change."

Well, I don't think anyone wants models to look FAT or unhealthy... so maybe those are the wrong words.  Maybe we should be talking about "authentic" and "realistic"... Interesting stuff either way...

Any thoughts?


December 21, 2006 in The skinny model debate, Think About This | Permalink | Comments (2)

Cosmo magazine and skinny models

Cosmo9804 "At Cosmo, we don't Photoshop models to fill them out because it only perpetuates using girls that are too thin. What we like to do instead is start at the front end and use the healthiest-looking models we can find."

--Kate White, editor in chief , Cosmopolitan

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Having worked in magazines, I don't believe it.  But it's a nice quote.....

December 20, 2006 in Startling Stats and Quotes, The skinny model debate | Permalink | Comments (0)

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